Published: August 6, 2023 | Speaker: Tim Freitag | Series: God as Creator - Part 13 | Scripture: Genesis 1-2
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excursus this morning I think I've struggled to figure out exactly where to put this we've talked about a number of different aspects as we've been talking about
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nature of God as creator looking at his creative activity creative activity we have seen a number of aspects of God's creative activity
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part of two what is typically thought of as creation we saw his creation of man I'm going to put here
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Heaven and Earth man in the image
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Lord willing we will wrap up our last couple of sessions last few weeks that we have talking about
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those other two stages on the timeline we've already briefly touched on the creation of the church where his name dwells now and the anticipated consummation of the age when those things will be perfected
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in that Heavenly Temple descending upon the Earth where we will be with God in person in that particular way that we read their intervalation
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things to come however as I was going through these things and have been sort of collecting these bits as I've been studying I felt like we need to spend a little time talking
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about one other aspect of God's creativity that is a little less
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law the creative action of God in law what do we mean when we say law does anybody want to Define law for me
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I mean Paul has something in mind when he says the law not enough time for the coffee to have worked huh worked huh I mean what is the law if I say it's
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against the law what do I mean do's and don'ts um regulations right law in general
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to know them right so there's there's a lot of things entailed in just the the word law law in in the sense that we often read it in scripture refers to the law usually appended
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the law given through Moses which are particular
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of God to Israel and to all who would come in but there is also the larger concept of human law that we've just
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briefly touched on you know if we say it's against the law we're talking about rules and regulations that have been established by an authority in this case a government right so rules and regulations established by an authority
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applicable to its people Abe yes right so you can go back to Genesis and we can look at the what we call the
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creation mandate is sometimes pointed to as one of the first laws or the first uh promulgated commands to man to procreate to subdue the Earth there's
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also law in Genesis 9. we can turn to Genesis 9 and look at God's commands to Noah as he stands at the beginning of a kind of recreation and God gives him
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very specific commands about um respecting human life it's one of the places that people often point back to that um you know Murder is wrong particularly in that context humans human beings so
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yes there were things that that came before that before that there's also a larger concept here and I'm going to try to pick this up a little bit out of I had mentioned before
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Dorothy Sayer's mind of the maker and that I had found it maybe not as helpful but this particular section in her book
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I think the logic that she builds on here is very helpful for for picking apart sort of the the thorniness of this particular term and the way it's often deployed so I'm going to follow her logic a little bit with with some things
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added in as we move forward but law there's often sort of two meanings to law as it is used in general Society putting aside the law of Moses as we
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think about it in the church context but one of those and she uses the term arbitrary arbitrary regulation by human consent made in particular circumstances
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for a particular purpose capable of being promulgated enforced or suspended altered or rescinded
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without it altering the universe right so there is a speed limit that is a law a law the government can choose to alter the speed limit and it does not affect the
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universe in any particular other than by human behavior right and it may not even affect that depending on how well it's enforced which is a concept in law if if law is not enforced it is effectively no
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law at all so we can talk in that sense about Roman law in a historical context we can
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talk about laws of civilized Warfare we can talk about laws we call them usually rules rules of the game the Women's World Cup is going on at the moment there's rules that govern how the game
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is played and there's a lot of argument about whether or not it's enforced correctly or at all um you know the the laws of baseball have changed this this semester this year
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um the Orioles are winning now apparently they needed a pitch clock but these things can change these sort of laws prescribe certain rules that follow on others
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and in that sense the consequence of breaking the law follows on follows on from the rule but it is not necessary so
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for example for example three strikes and you're out there is nothing inherent in the universe that compels a man to move from a patch of dirt to The Dugout because he
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missed the ball three times there is nothing inherent in the universe that says that happens there's something inherent in the rules of baseball that says that happens and generally people have followed it but
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there is no inevitable connection between the progress of the ball and the motion of the man off the mound they are separable in theory
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in fact we just mentioned the Major League Baseball has changed these rules before so laws of the game they have changed and the universe and
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the game frankly have survived Sayers throws out this concept in her time and it's actually still illegal in
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the U.S if you marry two women at once you'll go to prison if you get caught but there's no causal connection between as she phrases it over indulgence in
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matrimony and your progress to prison she points out however that to marry even one person is to at some degree renounce personal freedom I mean you look at the Patriarchs they
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often had more than one wife and it didn't often benefit them particularly laws of war we have all of these things going on in Ukraine
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at the moment lots of examples we saw it in Syria in Syria laws of war have a tendency to be Pious aspiration rather than actual enforceable Authority
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enforceable Authority but we call them a law there are things that theoretically govern this so that's one sense and that's why Sayers uses the term arbitrary in this sense it is a an authority a body of
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people that is promulgating a rule that is fungible it can be changed without the universe collapsing arbitrary the other sense
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is that a law designates a generalized statement of observed order of one sort or another or another so in this sense we often use the term laws of nature I've shared this before
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and this is part of what I'm sort of giving away the ending a little bit but laws of nature there is a theory that goes around it's actually called
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is it the theory of neutrality or the or the law of neutrality there's a there's a concept a concept that's science mathematics the things that we observe about the real physical
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Universe in which we live are neutral they are not affected by your religion in theory
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but many people have pointed out that they are in fact affectable by your religion um I've shared this story before I'm sure I was taking biology for science majors at Clemson University
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first semester and our professor spent a good 10 minutes on a rant about how this was a college level biology course and we would not be discussing creation versus Evolution at all Evolution was
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established scientific fact man progressed to where he is now from chemicals and then single-celled organisms and on and on and now we're going to turn to page one and we start
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with the cell principle biogenesis life comes from life fundamental law of biology that she just spent 10 minutes arguing
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the laws we observe in the universe are changeable based on your religion Vern poythos the um mathematical and philosophical theorist points this out he said you know in in
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math particularly it's considered to be neutral everybody knows two plus two is four that is not a changeable calculation he said but what about the hinduist for the hinduist all plurality
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is illusion is illusion what did the hinduists say to the to the hot dog vendor make me one with everything one plus one is one there is no plurality it is all illusion
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everything is one well how can you do math on a principle that says everything is illusion and everything is fundamentally united into one existence and so what he's getting at with that
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and what we're going to get at this morning is morning is Christianity has the advantage on everyone else in this respect one there are fundamental laws of the
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universe they are not changeable and we know that why because they are put into the World by God's will God's creative power and he
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is unchangeable is unchangeable he points out this example in math you can State a theory at the moment one of those theories is
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somewhere in the long long long string of digits that we find in pi you're familiar with pi you divide it out and it's gone I don't know how many places we're up to now
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computers have been calculated we're way down but you could promulgate a theory that says somewhere in the digits of pi there are seven sevens repeating
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that is either true or false or false we haven't proved it yet nobody knows what he points out is that many today would argue would argue that there is neither truth nor false
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there because it is unverified and theoretically unverifiable at the moment so they would argue that there is even no fundamental principle of true or
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false until it can be verified but what he points out is that it must be either true or false and we must not yield on the fact that things are either true or false right or wrong just
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because you can't verify them by your own labor does not mean that God does not at some level know the answer to whether or not there are sevens repeating in the decimals of pi
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so your use and we could we could give many examples and we may have time to touch on a few more but when you look at the way things are done in science these days there is an awful lot of religion
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influencing the conclusions that are being come to not strict neutrality as is often maintained
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in this sense there are fundamental laws of the universe Sayers gives an example if you stick your finger in the fire it'll get burned okay this law is not promulgated it's it
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cannot be suspended or altered or broken at will you can interfere with it by protective gear or Coatings or various things of that nature but in regular
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circumstances you put an unguarded finger into a flame you will be burned barring some Supernatural intervention right that is a law that is not the same
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as arbitrary laws of human opinion so in this sense it is a statement of fact observed to be inherent in the universe things that we see around us
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anyone can enact a law that says murder is punishable by Death nobody can enact a law that says if you swallow a tumbler full of cyanide you
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won't die won't die one of those has a natural Consequence the other one is in a sense an arbitrary legal connection now we can go back to
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these things and we're going to come back around to this so don't don't jump on me yet there is a punishment for sin those things are inherent in the universe but we've got to work our way back around
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back around you understand that in human society the consequence of murder is a legal
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in this second case there is a true causal connection causal connection death is a natural consequence and a necessary consequence of the ingestion of significant amounts of poison
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however you have to be careful people apply the word law to statements about observed fact into very different
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it is often used the term law is use to sum up tendencies cases where a given effect is usually observed but not necessarily observed to
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follow we can talk about mendelian genetics as an example an example in mendelian genetics you can do your Punnett squares you can promulgate that over a large sample size
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the resulting offspring of two groups will result in Offspring in the following numerical
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what's the right word there pattern or proportion proportion is the word I'm looking for so as an example a person who is black a person who is white get married they have children the usual proportion is that it's
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effectively one black one white two sort of mixed in terms of their skin tone appearance that is the
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proportion that presents genetically but that is not to say that in a family where a black person and a white person are married and they have four children those four children may not all look very mixed or very different from those
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proportions okay so it is a tendency it is not a consequential law but we use the term law in this sense Tendencies observed over historic
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periods there is a law in linguistics Jacob Grimm observed that certain phonemes certain phonetic aspects of language changed when we talk about
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Indo-European languages in the rise of English and German and other Teutonic languages he observed that one particular letter that comes out of their roots in in Greek in Sanskrit
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always became the letter T in Teutonic languages okay this always happened and so now that is called Grimm's law
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but it doesn't mean that that would always have to happen it is an observation of historical occurrence that did always happen and so in that sense it is a statement of observed fact that always occurred
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unless interfered with so like a law of nature which is to say okay an apple falls out of a tree you expect that apple to hit the ground unless something interferes with it
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but unlike a law of nature you can imagine a world in which the letter in Sanskrit didn't become T it became D or V or some other letter
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Grimm's law is a statement of historical facts the laws of nature as we're describing today are a statement of what will happen will happen not what did happen just this week and I
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was not describing this to my children at all but just this week filigree was asking me as we were driving what would happen if there was no gravity another described all of us flying off
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the face of the earth into outer space and all of these she said oh well then we would all have airplanes that we would fly around I said well how would you land the airplane with them she said Well we'd have suction cups this went on for a while
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I summed it up at the end of the conversation by saying I sure was glad that God wrote the laws of the universe and not filigree
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the point being there are laws that govern the universe you can look at Ecclesiastes you can look at Proverbs a lot of what is promulgated in those things is a
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an awareness of the fundamental Tendencies of what will happen of natural consequence that God has woven into the world
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certain things are observed to happen to happen certain things are observed to be true regardless of human opinion I'm sure you have all heard of flat earthers there are various Societies in fact
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there have been at certain times of towns and Villages that have enacted in their laws that the Earth is flat the shape of the earth did not change based on human opinion
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nor did the fundamental progress and principles of God's universe change in any way based on the opinion of man whether or not the Earth was flat
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around Chuck just touched on this in in Thursday night class about heliocentrism versus um Terror centers what's the right word geocentric sorry
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um those theories later much more observable the way these things are influenced by Society by religion by people interacting with each other less
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than the theoretically neutral truths so there are laws of man laws that are enacted upon human consensus we already talked about whether or not those things
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can be enforced you only have to look at the prohibition era in the U.S in which those laws were often not enforced or enforced very sporadically it took a little while but those things collapsed
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effectively under non-enforcement um arbitrary law however when we talk about human law and this is where we're going with this in the time that we have left
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human law human law arbitrary law should not run contrary to the laws of nature this is the argument being made
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when laws of human society run into collision with fundamental laws of nature particularly Human Nature there are consequences there are things that happen
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the use of the word law should not be confused here I'm going to read a quote out of Sayers she's quoting from someone
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she only identifies him as Professor McMurray and I'll be honest I don't know who he was but his discussion she was writing this book by the way in 1942 um his discussion on the moral law quote
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the essence of a mechanical morality will be the idea that goodness consists in obedience to a moral law such a morality is false because it destroys human spontaneity
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by subjecting it to external Authority it is only matter that can be free in obeying law
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so he is conflating the two senses of law here law here he's using law and laws in two different senses when he speaks of laws governing the behavior of matter he's talking about statements of observed fact I
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didn't actually write it up here did I
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when he's talking about moral law moral law in this sense he's actually talking about codes of human behavior that are promulgated by governments
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stay the free while obeying by obeying laws
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being a sinner right I have free will but I'm already at dinner and all this needs to that when he talks about we are we're free to sin according to the law that governs us
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the law at work in our members well
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and that's why correct and that's where we're going is the argument made here is
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outline God created the world he created everything good everything good in his creation he established morality according to his nature
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there is right and there is wrong man sinned man violated that law there is later the institution of what we call the law
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but it is a subset a subset it is a confine of the larger concept so we're going to talk about this in
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which is how the theologians are usually referring to it the immutable morality of God that undergirds right and wrong in the universe versus any
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ordinance code ordinance code including this one while this is in alignment with this law it is not the same as the fundamental
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law do you understand why I'm saying that this one is a code of ordinances I'm going to read out of Jeremiah Jeremiah 33 my version The New American
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Standard Version frankly didn't capture the word the word the way it is in the Hebrew in uh the very end of Jeremiah 33
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I'm going to start in verse 23. it says the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah saying have you not observed what this people have spoken saying the two families which God chose he's rejected
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them thus they despise my people no longer are they as a nation in their sight thus says the Lord if my Covenant for day and night do not
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stand and the fixed patterns the word is actually ordinances the fixed ordinances of Heaven and Earth I have not established then I would reject the descendants of
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Jacob and David my servant not taking from his descendants rulers over the descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob but I will restore their fortunes and have mercy on them he talks here
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ordinances of Heaven and Earth fundamental laws of nature God says to to General or through Jeremiah if I haven't established those
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in that case I'll let the kingdom of David go David go but if I have there will be a descendant of David on the throne the throne I have not abandoned them
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thus there is an underlying universal law of morality that is separate from any given code we just talked about that there are true statements about the fundamental facts of man and what man is supposed to do and and Ariel's right
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where we're going with this is the difficulty between sin nature and the nature of the new creation of the new man in Christ
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and I certainly won't be able to dig all of what Paul has to say out of that in the next 15 minutes but we will talk about some of it by behaving in Conformity to this
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underlying so this is Sayers argument here that there is an underlying true morality and the more that man behaves in accord with this the Freer man truly
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however Paul tells us it is basically impossible for us to act in accord with this because we are governed by a nature of
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however on the other hand I don't know how many hands we're up to now
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that this exists is both true and discoverable and discoverable like any other natural law this is part of what I think Paul means in and we've already talked about this once but in Romans 2 in verses 14 and 15
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I'm sure they're fresh in your memory but um yeah he says in Romans 2 verse 14 for when the Gentiles who do not have the law meaning that one
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the lost my place when the Gentiles who do not have the law do instinctively the things of the law these not having the law are a law unto themselves in that they show the work of the law written in their hearts their conscience bearing
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witness their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them on the day when according to my gospel God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus this law is in accordance with
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this one but what Paul is saying is man has this one in his heart he is aware at some level whether he is acting in accordance with correct morality or acting in encounter to a law
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that God has written in the universe and in that sense God is right to judge man
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Romans 1 is I think clearly that that the the reason that the nations are without excuses not because the
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because the not because their minds are darker than therefore God is hidden from them and so and so they are obligated by what is evident in creation to seek after
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Creations Creator they should know they should be looking for the one of God who created heaven and earth right is is Paul not making
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that same argument with regard to the law the that is what he has spoken with because within me I I accuse and excuse
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myself about my behavior therefore I should know that I should be seeking a lawgiver whoever put that law that I'm struggling with that don't quite
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understand in my heart shouldn't I be seeking after that law Giver I don't see that that's what you're saying but but that's what I where I thought Paul was well so maybe I'm saying it in a way
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that's not so clear um I I agree that that's what Paul is doing here is is he's he's continuing his his argument that there is fundament underneath everything that is
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observable and it points back to the reason there is a law and the reason there is truth fact reality in any sense
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that the logic must go this way
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there is law there are immutable facts of the universe therefore there is real true reality and that real true reality can only exist in the context of the maker of the one who established that unchangeably because he is unchangeable
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associations with God as create our God and law givers those things are connected you know what we are seeing in our society now is that is that we through science and rejective God
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rejecting God as a law Giver of all laws of reality as arbitrary right and so that's what where I'm
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trying to get to today is basically you've summed up the lesson there and it goes to goes to I think in part what Chuck is dealing with in Thursday Night of the church in the world
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the world we live in a world that has abandoned this core logic at all at all okay and
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so let me try to do this succinctly Sayers is larger argument that she makes here is basically you can point to the church you can point to the Creeds you can point to the general codes the ordinances that man has put
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through the church in various ways as an attempt to get at this okay and you can hold those up against a world that does not believe in this
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and contrast them as a means of working scientifically at a discovery of this that is her her basic argument there as she moves through Ely
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when someone takes something from you you feel violated when someone kills you know someone in your family you know you feel hurt he knows something's wrong right we know
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when things when things you know you hear the statement that just doesn't write right you know all the time yeah you know and that's that's the natural
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the natural thing that God gives every man he knows he's been violated in one way or another
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that is because there's something inherent and us that comes from God from the true God that says this is right now then you know go ahead and tell me if I
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wanted is no law but there is a law that laws in our nature and we see it we know things are right and wrong
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well we have that feeling now but we're teaching our children and we live in a world that denies the truth behind that state well yeah but that's that's your lack of logic I mean it's the the the
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iron our iron our I don't know hey if you had your hand up
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unbelief believe it he would say that we the reason we have these laws that we that seem to be natural to us is just because of service the survival of man
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just because man needs to survive he came up with these laws yeah yeah obviously man we're not surviving murderers right so you can see the other side of the argument we see it as from
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God when they can see it as from this man survival man survival right so one of the things that happens herein so two points I want to get at
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before we run out of time this morning one of them is we're talking about the larger context of the whole study here is is the action of God as creator
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and I don't want to leave the concept of God as Creator without recognizing that he has put fundamental truth and reality into his creation
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okay so that's a core component of who he is as God that that also then runs into sinful man
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sinful man collides with this law more or less continually I think is getting it at the the concept of conscience that we recognize right
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and wrong and wrong in some respects emotionally but also mentally because God has made Man In His Image our conscience generally is in line with this but our
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conscience is also affected by sin we also have the examples in scripture of I can't remember the exact phrasing but talks about the Searing of conscience the more you sin you become inured to it it no longer feels wrong because you are
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practiced in it okay what we're trying to get back to is we believe in this because we've come this direction
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okay at some point we are moving about in a society that denies even this reality and we have to interact with this
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no okay but we understand that there is a fundamental truth whatever the codes of conduct that we promulgate within the church it's based on an idea that there is a
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fundamental morality that is in line with God's very nature hypothesis we live in a society that is testing the
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alternative frankly alternative frankly Sayers holds this up and says basically you wanna you wanna deal with this in hypotheticals I don't know why she picked these two but I'm going to use her example she said on the one hand you
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could you could hold up the behavior of Saint Francis of Assisi right on the other hand you can hold up Caligula it doesn't take a long leap of logic to say that a society of franciscans is
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better for man than a society of caligulas okay so a behavior that says I am the ultimate Authority I do whatever I want
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Caligula and all of his perversions is fundamentally worse off than a society of those who believe in a fundamental reality and try to live in
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accord with it that is her argument that she's making okay whether or not that convinces any unbeliever that you meet with I don't know what I'm trying to get at today is
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and I want to get one more point out of here before we leave it there is a fundamental reality that God has put into the world and one of the things that I think we as Christians can
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be helped with in understanding this is this there's often a concept frankly even inside of profession professing Christianity of God especially you hear this the god of the Old Testament
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as though that's a different person as being arbitrary as being harsh that the things he does the judgments he passes are arbitrary
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is God arbitrary or not I give you an example we've talked about okay if you put your hand Into the Fire you'll get burned the consequence is natural there's
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another consequence I can say if you whistle I'll beat you because I hate whistling that's not a natural consequence that's in my power whether or not it happens
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what we're trying to get at is the consequences of sin are true to Nature what comes out of sin is a natural consequence of the way God built the
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okay so when we read that the sins of the father are visited upon the children to the nth generation you think well that's kind of harsh it is in accord with the way God designed the universe these things have
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a natural outworking again I'm very glad that he designed it and not me or filigree
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but that's effectively what you're saying is that right in the fabric of creation and I find treaty because what you're saying is that much of even much of the law of Moses is telling us the facts about the way God set up his world I would say
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yes specific behavior yes right so the other thing I mean I somebody help me I can't remember the the verse um that they they bear the effects of
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the sin in their members uh basically the idea that that sin has its outworking its physical manifestation in manifestation in also Romans 2 it might you might be
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right um Jenny and I were talking about this weeks ago there's there's um there are a number of things I mean famously and and perhaps not to the church's credit this was held up during the AIDS uh initial crisis right that it
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primarily affected homosexuals therefore AIDS was you know the natural consequence of violating there is some respect in which that's true but it was not used in a way of compassion at all
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but you also have things you know again I think they are following the fundamental order of the Universe I don't know how many of you familiar with uh I think it's called kurdu um in uh New Guinea basically where uh
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cannibalism is practiced you get really horrible prion diseases from eating your fellow man because it is a violation of fundamental laws of God has made these things such that when
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you engage in that kind of gross sin it shows up in your body it's not just violation of your conscience or someone else's it is in the world so when you
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read okay God visits the sins of the father upon the children now we know some things about inherented diseases for example or you know all of the things that go with that my point is
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we have come this way down we live in a in a world that is denying this it is important for us to not yield on this principle at all
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and all of the things that come out of it does that make sense
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and the world is trying to push the limits of nature they kind of actually I
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yeah um and there is that going on and you will find people um holding up behaviors as of animals as
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a an excuse a model of what human behavior ought to be not recognizing that there is a fundamental difference man is not any other animal
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okay we are made in the image of God that goes back to the earlier but when we're talking about creative action of God I want you to to hold this in mind because it answers for us a number of of questions it answers exactly to Paul's
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description in Romans there that man is not excusable there is a fundamental law that is known by his very existence and
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the existence of the world around us that if you want to argue for any fundamental Truth at all it better start here because otherwise you're going to end up in a world that says there is no fundamental Truth at all and then how do
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we do anything um I'm running out of time but one of the mathematical sort of proofs of this is basically called the theory or the the fallacy of explosion which is to say
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if there's no law anything can be true therefore multiple things are true at the same time that must have been exclusionary okay you have you have violated the law of non-contradiction which again used to
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be considered a sort of fundament of of geometry proofs used to be considered a fundamental philosophy is now actually starting in the the late 60s early 70s
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people say that the law of non-contradiction doesn't apply it doesn't whatever things can be too too conflicting things can be true at the same time in in the same sense it's it's
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fine um it's not fine it it is it goes back to the nature of God who instilled these things in his reality and the way that we as Christians knowing this comport ourselves in the
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balance between this and this but we are out of time this morning so we're gonna close in a word of Prayer
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father we do thank you for your word we thank you for the truth of Who You Are that you are a maker creator sustainer that you have put these things in motion and you continue to uphold them by the
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word of your power that your very being is displayed for us in the heavens in your creation upon the Earth even in the anticipation of the new Heaven and Earth we hear the glory
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of what you have done already and so father we thank you for who you are for the great works that you have made in your creation and in all of the
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things around us displaying Your Glory we wish to glorify you more to be in accord with what you have made to underlie the universe
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that we would be more in Conformity with what is right with what is true with what you have made to reflect yourself that we would be polished by the
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exercise of your word by the preaching and hearing of it that our reflection would be a little bit clearer a little bit brighter that we would be better